Retire With Style
The purpose of Retire With Style is to help you discover the retirement income plan that is right for you. The first step is to discover your retirement income personality. Your hosts Wade Pfau, PhD, CFA, RICP and Alex Murguia, PhD walk you through creating and implementing a retirement plan that will help you reach your goals, and that you’ll be able to stick with. Start by going to risaprofile.com/style and sign up to take the industry’s first financial personality tool for retirement planning.
Episodes

Tuesday Jan 21, 2025
Episode 162: Retire with Style Live (not really) Q&A: Part 6
Tuesday Jan 21, 2025
Tuesday Jan 21, 2025
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', hosts Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia, are joined by Jason Rizkallah from McLean Asset Management. They continue answering your critical questions surrounding retirement planning, focusing on the nuances of choosing between lump sum and annuity options and asset allocation strategies for retirees. They explore the implications of having reliable income sources like pensions and Social Security, and how these can influence investment strategies. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding personal risk tolerance and the unique circumstances of each retiree when making financial decisions. This conversation delves into the complexities of retirement planning, focusing on guaranteed income sources, the implications of the 4% rule, and the nuances of liquidity in retirement funds. The discussion also covers the role of the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation, strategies for deciding when to start annuities, and the considerations surrounding frozen pensions and lump sum options. The importance of viewing these decisions within the broader context of an individual's financial plan is emphasized throughout. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
Defined benefit pensions are becoming rare but still relevant in certain areas.
Choosing between a lump sum and an annuity requires careful consideration of personal financial goals.
Reliable income sources can allow for more aggressive investment strategies in retirement.
Pensions and Social Security can be viewed as bond-like income streams.
The Retirement Income Style Awareness (RISA) tool can help identify personal preferences for retirement income.
Market downturns can significantly impact retirement plans, highlighting the need for careful risk management.
Legacy considerations may influence investment strategies, but they are often secondary to ensuring a successful retirement. Guaranteed income can influence asset allocation decisions.
Understanding liquidity is crucial for effective retirement planning.
The Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation can alter pension benefits.
Frozen pensions may limit future benefits and require careful consideration.
Lump sum options can provide flexibility but come with risks.
Pension contributions can be counted as part of overall savings.
Retirement decisions should be made in the context of a comprehensive financial plan.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Q&A Episode04:57 Lump Sum vs. Annuity: Key Considerations12:09 Asset Allocation: Stocks vs. Bonds in Retirement22:53 Understanding Guaranteed Income and Asset Allocation23:39 Evaluating the 4% Rule and Pension Value25:23 Liquidity: Technical vs. True Liquidity in Retirement29:11 Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation: Implications for Retirees32:34 Deciding When to Start Your Annuity36:43 Navigating Frozen Pensions and Lump Sum Decisions41:53 Counting Pension Contributions Towards Savings Rate
Links
Want to find out your personalized retirement income style? Click here to take a free RISA: https://risaprofile.com/style/
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”

Tuesday Jan 14, 2025
Episode 161: Retire with Style Live (not really) Q&A: Part 5
Tuesday Jan 14, 2025
Tuesday Jan 14, 2025
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau continue answering your questions on various aspects of retirement planning, focusing on the importance of buffer assets, the impact of market volatility, and how to make accurate financial projections. They share personal updates, including plans for a pickleball tour, and delve into the complexities of economic modeling, emphasizing the need for a consistent approach to managing retirement income and expenses. They also discuss the significance of tax efficiency in managing taxable investments and how funded ratios can influence retirement strategies. The dialogue emphasizes the need for consistency in financial planning and the psychological aspects of market awareness. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
Sequence of returns risk is crucial in retirement planning.
Having a rules-based framework helps reduce emotional decision-making.
Using conservative assumptions can lead to better planning outcomes.
Behavioral finance plays a significant role in retirement decision-making. Inflation significantly impacts future budgeting and spending.
Building financial tools can be straightforward, but taxes complicate things.
The funded ratio helps determine withdrawal strategies in retirement.
Lower withdrawal rates correlate with higher funded ratios.
Investing aggressively is possible when overfunded.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates05:30 Understanding Buffer Assets in Retirement Planning19:54 Projections and Assumptions for Retirement Planning26:28 Building Your Own Financial Tools32:35 Investment Tracking and Market Awareness42:40 Taxable Investments and Funded Ratios
Links
Want to find out your personalized retirement income style? Click here to take a free RISA: https://risaprofile.com/style/
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips

Tuesday Jan 07, 2025
Episode 160: Retire with Style Live (not really) Q&A: Part 4
Tuesday Jan 07, 2025
Tuesday Jan 07, 2025
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', hosts Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau engage in a lively discussion about various financial strategies for retirement. They explore the differences between Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) and Roth IRAs, emphasizing the tax advantages of HSAs. The conversation also delves into the implications of investing in Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITs) and the importance of asset allocation. Additionally, they clarify common misconceptions about tax planning for individuals versus married couples, particularly regarding Medicare and Social Security. Alex and Wade also discuss various investment strategies, particularly focusing on Warren Buffett's investment guidelines, stock allocation for retirement, and the importance of preparing for the fragile decade leading up to retirement. They explore the transition to fixed income investments and the significance of understanding individual risk tolerance and retirement styles. The discussion emphasizes the need for a tailored approach to retirement planning, considering both mathematical and psychological factors. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
HSAs offer unique tax advantages over Roth IRAs.
Investing in REITs can be beneficial in tax-advantaged accounts.
Asset allocation should be prioritized over asset location.
Understanding tax traps in retirement is crucial for effective planning.
Married couples face similar tax implications as single filers.
Collecting medical receipts can lead to significant tax savings.
The investment strategy should align with individual financial goals.
Communication about financial strategies is essential for clarity.
Warren Buffett's investment advice should be contextualized for individual needs.
Investing in the S&P 500 is generally more effective than picking individual stocks.
The fragile decade before and after retirement is crucial for income planning.
A balanced approach to stock and fixed income allocation is essential.
Understanding personal risk tolerance is key to retirement success.
Transitioning to fixed income should start 5-10 years before retirement.
The sequence of returns risk can significantly impact retirement income.
Diversification across different asset classes can mitigate risks.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Small Talk12:02 Tax Planning in Retirement: Individual vs. Joint Filers22:29 Understanding Stock Allocation in Retirement35:38 Transitioning to Fixed Income Investments43:05 Conclusion and Next Steps
Links
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”

Tuesday Dec 31, 2024
Episode 159: Retire with Style Live (not really) Q&A: Part 3
Tuesday Dec 31, 2024
Tuesday Dec 31, 2024
In this conversation, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia discuss various aspects of retirement planning, focusing on withdrawal strategies, investment diversification, tax-efficient withdrawals, and the implications of the wash sale rule. They emphasize the importance of having a reliable income stream during retirement and explore different strategies for managing investments and withdrawals to optimize financial security. The discussion also touches on the nuances of taxable versus tax-deferred accounts and the role of annuities in retirement planning. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
Reliable income from pensions can cover basic expenses.
Constant percentage withdrawal strategies can lead to volatility.
It's beneficial to have a predictable income stream.
There are various withdrawal strategies to consider.
Investment diversification is crucial for managing risk.
Bond funds can provide stability in a portfolio.
Tax-efficient withdrawal strategies can optimize tax brackets.
Understanding the wash sale rule is important for tax planning.
Non-qualified annuities can be beneficial in certain situations.
General advice should be tailored to individual circumstances.
Chapters
00:00 Withdrawal Strategies: Constant Percentage vs. Variable Spending11:14 Tax-Efficient Withdrawal Strategies16:34 Understanding Substantially Identical Securities
Links
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips

Tuesday Dec 24, 2024
Episode 158: Retire with Style Live (not really) Q&A: Part 2
Tuesday Dec 24, 2024
Tuesday Dec 24, 2024
In this episode of 'Retire with Style' Alex and Wade continue answering your questions about the various aspects of retirement planning. Their conversation focuses on the implications of the Secure Act 2.0 on SPIA and RMD calculations, the legal responsibilities surrounding RMD miscalculations, strategies for protecting late-life income against inflation, optimizing Social Security payments, and the considerations for Roth IRA contributions versus distributions. They also emphasize the importance of understanding new regulations, legal implications, and financial strategies to ensure a secure retirement. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
Understanding the new RMD rules can significantly impact retirement planning.
SPIA payments can now be aggregated with IRA balances for RMD calculations.
Legal advice may be necessary for resolving RMD miscalculations.
Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) can help protect against inflation.
Roth IRA contributions should ideally be made early in the year.
Dollar-cost averaging can mitigate market volatility in distributions.
Innovative financial products are emerging to address retirement income needs.
Understanding the implications of the Secure Act 2.0 is essential for retirees.
Chapters
00:00 Strategies for Achieving a Funded Ratio01:22 Understanding RMDs and SPIAs12:28 Inflation Protection for Late Life Income22:41 Optimizing Social Security Benefits24:11 Investment Strategies: Lump Sum vs. Dollar Cost Averaging32:07 Withdrawal Strategies: Constant Percentage vs. Variable Spending
Links
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”

Tuesday Dec 17, 2024
Episode 157: Retire with Style Live (not really) Q&A Part 1
Tuesday Dec 17, 2024
Tuesday Dec 17, 2024
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia tackle a variety of questions related to retirement planning, including the necessity of international stocks, the implications of Roth conversions, and strategies for purchasing property with retirement funds. They also discuss potential reforms in Medicare and Social Security, and the importance of understanding funded ratios in retirement planning. The conversation emphasizes the need for diversification in investment portfolios and the significance of reliable income in retirement. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
International stocks are not required but can provide diversification.
Roth conversions can be beneficial even if tax rates decrease.
Purchasing property with retirement funds requires careful tax planning.
Future reforms in Medicare and Social Security remain uncertain.
Understanding your funded ratio is crucial for retirement planning.
Diversification is key in investment strategies for retirement.
Reliable income sources should be prioritized in retirement planning.
Tax-efficient distributions can help minimize tax burdens.
Investing in international stocks can buffer against market volatility.
It's important to assess personal comfort levels with investment locations.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview01:34 International Stocks: Necessity or Choice?08:11 Roth IRA Conversions: Timing and Strategy13:05 Tax-Efficient Distributions for Property Purchases16:10 Medicare and Social Security: Future Reforms21:45 Funded Ratios and Retirement Planning28:14 Assessing Retirement Readiness31:52 Income Protection and Asset Allocation
Links
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips

Tuesday Dec 10, 2024
Episode 156: Navigating The New Retirement Landscape
Tuesday Dec 10, 2024
Tuesday Dec 10, 2024
In this episode, Wade and Alex welcome Jason Fichtner to discuss the evolving landscape of retirement income. They explore consumer perspectives on retirement, the importance of protected income strategies, and the generational shifts affecting retirement planning. Their conversation also delves into the decline of traditional pensions, insights on Social Security and Medicare, and the need for better communication regarding claiming strategies. The conversation also focuses on the evolving landscape of retirement income, focusing on the importance of annuities and social security as protected income sources. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
The concept of retirement is evolving beyond traditional norms.
Protected income is essential for financial security in retirement.
Generational shifts are leading to different retirement challenges.
The decline of pensions necessitates new income solutions.
Social Security is not sufficient for most retirees' needs.
Effective communication about claiming benefits is crucial.
The retirement planning industry must adapt to changing demographics.
Education on retirement income strategies is vital for future generations. Delaying Social Security can enhance spousal benefits.
The traditional three-legged stool of retirement income is changing.
Innovative annuity options can help bridge income gaps in retirement.
Behavioral framing can influence retirement income expectations.
Protected income can increase retirees' spending confidence.
Barriers to annuitization need to be addressed for better adoption.
The retirement security industry has a significant role to play.
Research and common language are essential for effective communication.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Retirement Income Challenges02:13 Consumer Perspectives on Retirement05:01 The Importance of Protected Income08:12 Generational Shifts in Retirement Planning10:41 The Decline of Traditional Pensions12:05 Social Security and Medicare Insights15:20 Reframing Social Security Claiming Strategies19:00 Understanding Annuities and Social Security21:59 The Shift from Defined Benefit to Defined Contribution24:55 Innovations in Retirement Income Solutions28:58 The Future of Retirement Security32:02 Research and Education in Retirement Planning
Links
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”

Tuesday Dec 03, 2024
Episode 155: Navigating Roth Conversions: Key Strategies and Insights
Tuesday Dec 03, 2024
Tuesday Dec 03, 2024
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', hosts Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau delve into the complexities of Roth conversions, discussing strategies, constraints, and the importance of diversified accounts. They explore how to approach Roth conversions effectively, considering factors like income needs, tax implications, and the innovative concept of tax mapping to optimize retirement planning. They also delve into the complexities of tax planning, particularly focusing on the tax map concept, effective marginal tax rates, and the strategic importance of Roth conversions. Their discussion also touches on how various income sources, including Social Security and investment income, interact with tax brackets and surcharges, ultimately influencing retirement planning and legacy outcomes. The dialogue emphasizes the need for personalized strategies to optimize tax efficiency and legacy value, while also addressing the nuances of tax law changes and individual circumstances. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
Roth conversions should be viewed as a hedging strategy.
It's important to frontload Roth conversions when possible.
Constraints like RMDs and taxable income affect conversion decisions.
Tax mapping can clarify how much to convert and when.
A conservative approach to conversions can mitigate risks.
The effectiveness of Roth conversions depends on future tax rates.
Planning should adapt as circumstances change over time.
Opening a Roth account early is beneficial for future flexibility. The tax map helps visualize how ordinary income affects tax rates.
Effective marginal tax rates can be higher than nominal rates due to Social Security taxation.
Roth conversions can be strategically beneficial to manage future tax liabilities.
Targeting specific effective marginal tax rates can optimize legacy outcomes.
Tax planning should consider both current and future income scenarios.
Low income years present unique opportunities for Roth conversions.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Roth Conversions02:11 Understanding Roth Conversion Strategies10:18 Constraints in Roth Conversion Decisions16:33 The Importance of Diversified Accounts20:14 Exploring Tax Mapping Concepts23:04 Understanding the Tax Map and Income Generation27:03 Navigating Tax Brackets and Effective Marginal Rates29:36 The Importance of Roth Conversions31:15 Evaluating Tax Rate Targets for Optimal Legacy35:48 Strategies for Roth Conversions and Tax Planning41:28 Identifying Opportunities for Roth Conversions
Links
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips

Tuesday Nov 26, 2024
Episode 154 The Financial Advisor's Guide to Roth Conversions Part 2
Tuesday Nov 26, 2024
Tuesday Nov 26, 2024
In this episode of 'Retire with Style', hosts Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau, along with guest Rob Cordeau, continue their conversation into the complexities of Roth conversions and their implications for tax efficiency in retirement planning. They discuss the nuances of paying taxes on conversions, the importance of understanding tax brackets, and the impact of the SECURE Act on intergenerational wealth transfer. The conversation emphasizes strategic planning to optimize tax outcomes for both current and future generations, highlighting the need for a dynamic approach to retirement income management. They highlight the value of having a diversified tax strategy to enhance financial flexibility in retirement. Listen now to learn more! Takeaways
Roth conversions can be beneficial if done at a lower tax rate.
Paying taxes from an IRA during a Roth conversion isn't always bad advice.
Tax brackets in retirement can vary significantly based on spending phases.
Intergenerational planning is crucial for optimizing tax liabilities for heirs.
The SECURE Act has changed the landscape for inherited IRAs, requiring careful planning.
Clients often go through different spending phases in retirement, affecting tax strategies.
Understanding the timing of tax payments can lead to better financial outcomes.
Overconfidence can lead to over-converting in Roth strategies.
Having a tax-free bucket in retirement offers significant advantages.
Understanding the pro-rata rule is crucial for backdoor Roth conversions.
Tax projections are vital for effective Roth conversion planning.
Flexibility in tax strategy can enhance retirement income management.
It's important to consider state tax implications when converting.
Engaging in Roth conversions can open doors for future financial flexibility.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Roth Conversions08:35 Intergenerational Tax Planning17:57 Hedging Strategies in Retirement Planning24:03 Mistakes in Roth Conversions30:01 Understanding Roth Conversion Nuances
Links
Click here to submit your question for a future RWS Live Q&A: retirementresearcher.com/ask
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”

Tuesday Nov 19, 2024
Episode 153: The Financial Advisor's Guide to Roth Conversions
Tuesday Nov 19, 2024
Tuesday Nov 19, 2024
In this episode, Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau are joined by Rob Cordeau to discuss the complexities and strategies surrounding Roth conversions. They emphasize the importance of long-term tax planning and the various factors that influence the decision to convert traditional IRAs to Roth IRAs. They explore the perspectives of financial advisors versus accountants, the timing of conversions, and the emotional aspects of financial planning. The conversation also touches on the implications of national debt and future tax rates, providing insights into how clients can navigate these decisions effectively. Listen now to learn more!
Takeaways
Roth conversions can lead to significant tax savings over time.
It's crucial to consider long-term tax implications rather than just immediate savings.
Tax projections should be done annually to adjust strategies as needed.
Advisors and CPAs may have differing perspectives on Roth conversions.
Clients often have preconceived notions about Roth strategies that need addressing.
Using standard deductions effectively can enhance tax efficiency in retirement.
Roth conversions should be viewed as a hedging strategy against future tax increases.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Roth Conversions01:31 Understanding Roth Conversions03:08 The Accountant's Perspective on Roth Conversions05:06 When to Consider Roth Conversions08:02 Analyzing the Break-Even Point12:15 Adjusting Strategies Over Time14:11 Emotional Aspects of Financial Planning16:17 Advisor vs. CPA Perspectives19:58 Client Perspectives on Roth Conversions22:26 Predicting Future Tax Rates25:14 The Role of National Debt in Tax Planning30:31 Hedging Against Future Tax Increases31:12 Maximizing Roth Conversions33:02 Conclusion and Next Steps
Links
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2024! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”