Retire With Style

Episode 185: Retire with Style Live Q&A

In this live Q&A session, Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau answer questions on key aspects of retirement income planning, including withdrawal strategies, the 4% rule, tax considerations, and the role of financial advisors. They discuss how age and financial circumstances can influence withdrawal rates and highlight the importance of using guardrails to manage risk. The conversation also touches on Medicare, ACA subsidies, gifting strategies, and investment approaches to help protect against inflation. Altogether, it offers practical insights for retirees planning their financial future.
 
Takeaways
The 4% rule is a guideline for a 30-year withdrawal strategy.
Withdrawal rates can vary based on age and time horizon.
Guardrails can help manage sequence of returns risk in retirement.
Tax strategies are crucial for overfunded retirees to minimize liabilities.
Medicare and ACA subsidies can impact retirement income planning.
Gifting strategies can help manage estate taxes and provide for heirs.
Investment strategies should consider inflation protection, especially for those without Social Security.
Financial advisors can provide valuable guidance in retirement planning.
Risk management is essential to ensure sustainable income in retirement.
Planning for retirement involves both financial and non-financial considerations.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Retirement Income Strategies06:07 Understanding the 4% Rule and Its Variations11:55 Exploring Withdrawal Rates for Different Ages21:01 Strategies for Overfunded Retirement Scenarios30:14 Balancing Total Return and Income Protection Strategies32:40 Spending Strategies for Retirement Accounts35:50 Charitable Giving and Roth Accounts39:31 Mortgage vs. Roth IRA Contributions43:57 Withdrawal Strategies in Retirement49:41 Key Steps Before Retirement53:08 Roth Conversions and IRMA56:28 Inflation Protection for Educators01:01:15 Understanding Risk-Wrapper Strategies
 
Links
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The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips

Episode 184: Can Tech Replace Your Financial Advisor?

In this episode of Retire with Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia talk with John Manganaro, senior reporter at ThinkAdvisor, about the shifting landscape of retirement income planning. They explore how technology is reshaping financial planning, the growing need for holistic advice, and the challenges both advisors and consumers face in finding effective tools. John offers insights into the future of financial software, the value of human advisors, and the behavioral side of planning-highlighting the importance of addressing both financial and lifestyle goals in retirement.
 
Takeaways
Technology is expanding what financial advisors can do.
Holistic advice is becoming essential for effective retirement planning.
An aging population is driving greater demand for financial planning.
Advisors are increasingly using advanced tools for tax-efficient retirement income strategies.
The advisor’s role remains critical in implementing and personalizing financial plans.
Behavioral factors are just as important as the numbers in financial planning.
More new advisors are focusing on serving middle-class clients.
AI may help democratize access to quality financial advice.
New software solutions are reshaping how the industry delivers financial planning.
Many next-generation advisors are driven by a desire to help others, not just manage wealth.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Retirement Income Planning03:00 The Role of Technology in Financial Planning06:03 Understanding Holistic Financial Advice09:05 The Evolution of Financial Planning Tools11:54 Challenges in Accessing Financial Advice14:57 The Future of Financial Software Solutions25:56 Exploring Social Security Strategies28:07 Preparing for Retirement: Lifestyle Considerations30:00 Behavioral Challenges in Financial Planning33:00 The Evolution of Financial Software39:07 The Role of AI in Financial Advice42:57 The New Wave of Financial Advisors
 
Links
Upcoming Retirement Researcher Webinar: What’s Involved When Working With an Advisor. Join Jason Rizkallah and Brian Bass from McLean Asset Management on Wednesday, June 25th at 1PM ET for a FREE webinar exploring how to evaluate and work with a financial advisor. Register now at retirewithstyle.com/podcast.
Explore the New RetireWithStyle.com! We’ve launched a brand-new home for the podcast! Visit RetireWithStyle.com to catch up on all our latest episodes, explore topics by category, and send us your questions or ideas for future episodes. If there’s something you’ve been wondering about retirement, we want to hear it!
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”

Episode 183: Retire Smarter, Not Harder

In this episode of Retire with Style, Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau explore the key elements of comprehensive retirement planning. They discuss the importance of understanding your financial goals, working with a financial advisor, and managing risks like health insurance and long-term care costs. Drawing on listener questions and case studies, they examine strategies for transitioning from business ownership to retirement income, optimizing Social Security, and addressing funding gaps. The conversation highlights how personalized planning and thoughtful asset allocation can lead to better financial outcomes in retirement. Listen now to learn more!
 
Takeaways
The quality of your questions shapes the quality of your financial plan.
Clear retirement goals are the foundation of effective planning.
Financial advice must be tailored—there is no one-size-fits-all solution.
Investment strategies should align with your personal goals and overall asset allocation.
Health insurance planning is critical before reaching Medicare eligibility.
Long-term care costs should be factored into your retirement plan.
Tax planning can significantly increase your after-tax retirement income.
Transitioning from business income to retirement income requires thoughtful preparation.
Financial independence involves complex, interconnected decisions.
Personalized strategies are essential for a successful retirement.
Understanding your risk capacity and comfort level is vital to planning.
Social Security claiming strategies can meaningfully affect retirement income.
Asset location matters just as much as asset allocation.
A written financial plan helps turn goals into actionable decisions.
Part-time work can be a useful tool to bridge income gaps in early retirement.
Fixed index annuities may offer dependable income in retirement.
A good financial advisor can materially improve your retirement outcomes.
It's important to assess your confidence and ability to manage your retirement plan.
Effective planning requires a clear understanding of your assets and liabilities.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Financial Planning and the Webinar01:57 Understanding Financial Plans and the Role of Advisors05:53 Analyzing a Financial Independence Case Study12:06 Exploring Retirement Risks and Goals17:54 Investment Strategies and Tax Planning for Retirement19:49 Transitioning from Business Sale to Retirement Income25:08 Exploring Financial Strategies for Retirement35:22 Bridging the Retirement Gap42:32 The Value of Financial Advisors
 
Links
Upcoming Retirement Researcher Webinar: What’s Involved When Working With an Advisor! Join Jason Rizkallah and Brian Bass from McLean Asset Management on Wednesday, June 25th at 1PM Eastern for a FREE webinar exploring how to evaluate and work with a financial advisor.Register now at retirewithstyle.com/podcast.
Explore the New RetireWithStyle.com! We’ve launched a brand-new home for the podcast! Visit RetireWithStyle.com to catch up on all our latest episodes, explore topics by category, and send us your questions or ideas for future episodes. If there’s something you’ve been wondering about retirement, we want to hear it!
 
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips
 

Episode 182: When Disaster Strikes… Should You Invest?

In this episode of Retire with Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia explore alternative investments with a focus on natural resources, commodities, and catastrophe bonds. They break down the strategies and risks behind these asset classes and examine how they can fit into a diversified retirement portfolio. The conversation offers insights into the potential advantages and challenges of these investments for retirement planning.
 
Takeaways
Natural resources include timberland, farmland, and water rights.
Commodities can serve as an inflation hedge but are volatile.
Catastrophe bonds transfer natural disaster risk to investors.
Investing in companies that use commodities may be more beneficial.
The correlation of commodities to equities is generally low.
Catastrophe bonds can provide uncorrelated returns to the market.
Investors should consider the expected return for each asset class.
Due diligence is essential when exploring alternative investments.
Infrastructure investments can offer stable returns through usage fees.
The role of portfolio managers is to expose investors to asset classes with favorable risk-return profiles.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Alternative Investments02:22 Exploring Natural Resources and Commodities11:53 Understanding Catastrophe Bonds21:18 Evaluating Risks and Returns in Catastrophe Bonds
 
Links
Explore the New RetireWithStyle.com! We’ve launched a brand-new home for the podcast! Visit RetireWithStyle.com to catch up on all our latest episodes, explore topics by category, and send us your questions or ideas for future episodes. If there’s something you’ve been wondering about retirement, we want to hear it!
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”
 

Episode 181: Bricks, Mortar and Retirement

In this episode of Retire with Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia explore real assets- focusing on real estate and infrastructure- and their role in retirement portfolios. They discuss the pros and cons of residential and commercial property ownership, the value of REITs, and the potential of infrastructure investments. The conversation highlights the importance of diversification and understanding the risk-return tradeoffs of these asset classes. Listen now to learn more!
 
Takeaways
Real assets—like real estate and infrastructure—can play a valuable role in retirement portfolios.
These assets can improve portfolio efficiency by enhancing return relative to risk.
REITs offer accessible exposure to real estate without requiring accredited investor status.
Owning residential property often requires active management and can feel more like a job than a passive investment.
Commercial real estate tends to provide more stable income through longer-term leases.
Infrastructure investments can offer steady cash flows and some protection against inflation.
Diversification remains key to effectively managing portfolio risk.
1031 exchanges allow investors to defer capital gains taxes when selling real estate.
Water rights represent a niche but growing area of investment opportunity.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Real Assets02:00 Understanding Real Estate in Portfolios08:04 The Role of Residential Real Estate16:01 Exploring Commercial Real Estate28:05 Infrastructure as an Investment33:44 Conclusion and Future Topics
 
LinksExplore the New RetireWithStyle.com! We’ve launched a brand-new home for the podcast! Visit RetireWithStyle.com to catch up on all our latest episodes, explore topics by category, and send us your questions or ideas for future episodes. If there’s something you’ve been wondering about retirement, we want to hear it!
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips

Episode 180: The Secret Life of Private Investments

In this episode of Retire with Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia explore the world of alternative investments, with a focus on private equity and private credit. They discuss what it means to be an accredited investor, the different types of private equity investments, and the typical life cycle and structure of private equity funds—including the roles of general and limited partners.
The conversation also covers key risks, such as liquidity constraints and valuation challenges, and explains how private investments can fit into a broader retirement income strategy. Wade and Alex highlight the growing accessibility of these investments for retail investors, the rise of private credit markets, and the relationship between volatility and expected returns—underscoring the importance of understanding risk when evaluating investment decisions. Listen now to learn more!
 
Takeaways: 
Private Equity
Private equity involves investing in private companies rather than publicly traded stocks.
The main types of private equity are venture capital, growth equity, and buyouts.
These funds typically follow a seven- to eight-year life cycle and are structured with general partners (who manage the fund) and limited partners (who provide capital).
Carried interest is a key component of compensation for general partners.
Liquidity is a major concern—investments are often locked up for long periods.
Valuing private companies is often opaque and can mislead investors.
In venture capital, most returns come from a small number of successful investments.
Private equity can provide diversification benefits in a broader portfolio.
Private Credit
Private credit focuses on lending, often to individuals or private firms, and is distinct from private equity.
These investments are gaining popularity, driven by institutional demand and the search for yield.
Platforms like iCapital are increasing access for individual investors.
Private credit can offer higher yields than traditional fixed income but also comes with unique risks.
Investment Strategy and Risk
Alternative investments are growing in popularity, especially among individual investors.
Risk and return must be evaluated together—volatility alone does not guarantee higher returns.
Effective portfolio construction requires understanding how different asset classes interact.
Investors should avoid diversifying blindly and instead understand the specific risks of each investment. 
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Alternative Investments04:25 Understanding Private Equity10:27 Types of Private Equity Investments18:52 The Private Equity Life Cycle26:36 Structure and Function of Private Equity Funds28:08 Risks and Considerations in Private Equity29:15 The Illusion of Valuations31:43 Democratization of Investment Access32:12 Understanding Private Credit35:33 The Growth of Private Credit Markets41:03 Integrating Private Credit into Portfolios45:17 Volatility and Expected Returns
 
Links
Curious about alternative investments but not sure where to start? Join Alex Murguia for the latest Retirement Researcher Academy Workshop: Know Before You Invest: Understanding Alternative Investments and get the clarity you need: https://retirement-researcher.ontralink.com/tl/538
 
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Join Us Live on YouTube – June 2nd at 2PM ET!Want to go beyond the podcast and be part of the conversation in real time? Wade and Alex will be hosting a special Retire With Style YouTube Live session, where you can ask your retirement questions and get answers on the spot.
 
Head over to our YouTube channel now, hit Subscribe, and click the bell to get notified when we go live. We’ll see you there! https://www.youtube.com/@retirewithstylepodcast
 
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
 
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”

Episode 179: Forecasts, Futures, and Funds: Inside the Hedge Fund Playbook

In this episode of Retire with Style, Wade Pfau and Alex Murguia explore the complex world of hedge funds, focusing on strategies like global macro, event-driven, and managed futures. They explain the role of derivatives, the impact of forecasting, and how these approaches can complement a broader investment portfolio, especially in the context of retirement planning.
 
Takeaways
Derivatives are contracts whose value depends on an underlying asset.
Global macro strategies rely on macroeconomic trends and require strong forecasting skills.
Event-driven strategies aim to profit from corporate actions such as mergers and acquisitions.
Managed futures use trend-following techniques to trade commodities, currencies, and other assets.
Understanding the distinction between futures and options is essential for informed investing.
Hedge funds typically require accredited investor status due to their complexity and risk profile.
Hedge fund performance can vary widely depending on market conditions and strategy selection.
Managed futures often have low correlation with traditional stock and bond markets, offering diversification benefits.
Investors should evaluate how hedge fund strategies align with their broader investment objectives.
 
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Hedge Funds and Market Trends02:34 Understanding Derivatives in Investing10:14 Exploring Global Macro Strategies20:29 Diving into Event-Driven Strategies30:36 Managed Futures: Trend Following Approaches40:05 Conclusion and Future Discussions
 
Links 
Explore the New RetireWithStyle.com! We’ve launched a brand-new home for the podcast! Visit RetireWithStyle.com to catch up on all our latest episodes, explore topics by category, and send us your questions or ideas for future episodes. If there’s something you’ve been wondering about retirement, we want to hear it!
 
Join Us Live on YouTube – June 2nd at 2PM ET!Want to go beyond the podcast and be part of the conversation in real time? Wade and Alex will be hosting a special Retire With Style YouTube Live session, where you can ask your retirement questions and get answers on the spot.
Head over to our YouTube channel now, hit Subscribe, and click the bell to get notified when we go live. We’ll see you there! https://www.youtube.com/@retirewithstylepodcast
 
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
 
This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips

Episode 178: Hedging Your Bets in Retirement: What You Should Know

In this episode, Wade and Alex explore the world of hedge funds—what they are, how they’re structured, and how they’ve evolved from simple hedging tools into complex investment vehicles. They break down common fee models, challenges in measuring performance, and the impact of data biases. The conversation also covers key hedge fund strategies—including long-short, market neutral, arbitrage, and quantitative approaches—highlighting their mechanics, risk profiles, and what they mean for investors, particularly those nearing retirement. Listen now to learn more!
 
Takeaways
Hedge funds are actively managed investment vehicles with fewer regulatory constraints.
They aim for absolute returns, regardless of market direction.
The traditional fee model is “2 and 20”—2% management fee and 20% of profits.
Fees are declining due to growing competition and investor scrutiny.
Performance is difficult to assess due to survivorship bias and data limitations.
Investors should be cautious of marketing claims and understand the fund’s true strategy.
Long-short strategies bet on both rising and falling stocks.
Market neutral strategies attempt to remove market exposure to focus on relative performance.
Arbitrage seeks to profit from temporary price inefficiencies.
Quantitative strategies rely on data-driven models to guide trades.
Risk premium harvesting involves tilting toward factors like value or momentum.
Short selling helps with price discovery but carries risk due to unlimited loss potential.
Understanding alpha (excess return) and beta (market exposure) is key to evaluating hedge fund performance.
Technology is central to many modern trading strategies.
Informed investors are better positioned to navigate complex alternatives like hedge funds.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Hedge Funds02:12 Understanding Hedge Funds05:30 Fee Structures and Costs10:00 Performance and Survivorship Bias16:08 Hedge Fund Strategies Overview22:43 Long-Short and Market Neutral Strategies23:40 Understanding Long-Short Strategies30:10 Exploring Market Neutral Strategies38:11 Diving into Arbitrage and Quantitative Strategies
 
Links
Join Us Live on YouTube – June 2nd at 2PM ET!Want to go beyond the podcast and be part of the conversation in real time? Wade and Alex will be hosting a special Retire With Style YouTube Live session, where you can ask your retirement questions and get answers on the spot.
Head over to our YouTube channel now, hit Subscribe, and click the bell to get notified when we go live. We’ll see you there! https://www.youtube.com/@retirewithstylepodcast
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”

Episode 177: Winning the Loser’s Game: A Look at Alternative Investments

In this episode of Retire with Style, Dr. Wade Pfau and Dr. Alex Murguia explore the evolving world of alternative investments and their potential role in retirement planning. They discuss the concept of "Winning the Loser’s Game"—emphasizing the value of steady, disciplined strategies over high-risk maneuvers—and examine how alternatives like cryptocurrencies, private equity, and hedge funds may fit into a well-structured retirement portfolio. The conversation covers what it means to be an accredited investor, common misconceptions about alternative assets, and the importance of liquidity and regulatory oversight. They also touch on how current market dynamics are making these investments more accessible to individuals. Plus, they answer a listener question about spousal benefits under Social Security, offering practical guidance for those planning around them. Listen now to learn more!
 
Takeaways
Alternative investments can enhance portfolio diversification.
The concept of 'Winning the Loser's Game' applies to investing strategies.
Community engagement can be fostered through shared interests like pickleball.
Understanding the role of alternative investments is crucial for informed decision-making.
Not all alternatives are suitable for every investor's portfolio.
The definition of alternatives is broad and includes various asset classes.
Investors should be cautious of the hype surrounding alternatives.
Higher returns are often touted as a benefit of alternative investments.
Inflation hedging is a key reason for considering alternatives.
Access to alternative investments is becoming more democratized. Cryptocurrencies, especially Bitcoin, are seen as alternatives to traditional assets.
The future of investing is evolving, with more access for household investors.
Accredited investor status is crucial for accessing certain investment opportunities.
Many misconceptions exist about the risk and accessibility of alternative investments.
Liquidity versus illiquidity is a key consideration in alternative investments.
Market dynamics are changing, making alternatives more relevant now.
Technological innovations are democratizing access to alternative investments.
Investors should assess their portfolios for potential returns in alternatives.
Regulatory oversight is important for ensuring the safety of investments.
Understanding Social Security benefits is essential for retirement planning.
 
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Alternative Investments02:57 The Concept of Winning the Loser's Game06:09 Engaging the Community with Pickleball08:58 Understanding Alternative Investments12:05 Defining Alternatives in Investing15:03 The Appeal of Alternative Investments19:33 Exploring Cryptocurrencies and Their Unique Position22:01 The Evolution of Alternative Investments for Household Investors24:40 Understanding Accredited Investor Status and Its Implications31:07 Debunking Myths About Alternative Investments41:07 Why Now is the Time to Consider Alternatives45:17 Listener Question: Social Security Spousal Benefits
 
Links
The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by Retirement Researcher https://retirementresearcher.com/. Download their free eBook, 8 Tips to Becoming A Retirement Income Investor at retirementresearcher.com/8tips

Episode 176: Strategic Retirement Planning: Q&A on Income, Taxes, and Investments

In this episode of Retire with Style, hosts Alex Murguia and Wade Pfau tackle a range of financial planning questions in a lively Q&A session. They explore Social Security strategies, the role of single premium immediate annuities (SPIAs) in retirement income, and investment approaches for managing required minimum distributions (RMDs). The discussion also covers the pros and cons of bond ladders versus Treasury bonds, along with how Roth conversions can affect adjusted gross income and Medicare premiums. Throughout the conversation, Alex and Wade highlight how thoughtful, strategic planning can help retirees maximize their income and minimize their tax burden. Listen now to learn more!
 
Takeaways
Delaying social security can lead to increased spending throughout retirement.
A social security delay bridge can mitigate sequence of returns risk.
Single premium immediate annuities provide longevity protection and mortality credits.
Investing RMDs for beneficiaries can allow for more aggressive strategies.
Roth conversions impact adjusted gross income and potential IRMA surcharges.
Tax-efficient planning can help manage future tax liabilities.
Bond ladders are useful for meeting specific spending needs in retirement.
Treasury bonds can be a simpler alternative to bond ladders.
Understanding the nuances of annuities is crucial for retirement planning.
Engaging with audience questions enhances the relevance of financial discussions.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Pickleball Paddle Reveal04:30 Diving into Financial Planning Questions05:44 Social Security Strategies and Their Impact11:10 Building a Social Security Delay Bridge16:11 Exploring Single Premium Immediate Annuities22:45 Investment Strategies for RMDs24:40 Bond Ladders vs. Treasury Bonds26:59 Understanding Roth Conversions and IRMA
 
Links
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The Retirement Planning Guidebook: 2nd Edition has just been updated for 2025! Visit your preferred book retailer or simply click here to order your copy today: https://www.wadepfau.com/books/
This episode is sponsored by McLean Asset Management. Visit https://www.mcleanam.com/retirement-income-planning-llm/ to download McLean’s free eBook, “Retirement Income Planning”